{
  "id": 685419,
  "title": "Leaderboard will be clear until rerun scores are posted",
  "url": "/competitions/stanford-rna-3d-folding-2/discussion/685419",
  "author_name": "inversion",
  "post_date": "2026-03-28T02:54:14.738000",
  "votes": 4,
  "comment_count": 15,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I'll update this thread once completed.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 3430191,
      "postDate": "2026-03-28T03:27:02.187Z",
      "content": "<p>Interesting! <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/inversion\" target=\"_blank\">@inversion</a>, are you rescoring the public LB as well? Asking because I have never seen the public LB being cleared until the private LB reveal. Is this a new thing on Kaggle?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Interesting! @inversion, are you rescoring the public LB as well? Asking because I have never seen the public LB being cleared until the private LB reveal. Is this a new thing on Kaggle?",
      "votes": 7,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3430329,
          "postDate": "2026-03-28T09:23:49.047Z",
          "content": "<p>same feelings</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "same feelings"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 3430183,
      "postDate": "2026-03-28T02:54:14.740Z",
      "content": "<p>I'll update this thread once completed.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'll update this thread once completed.",
      "votes": 4
    },
    {
      "id": 3430188,
      "postDate": "2026-03-28T03:20:59.337Z",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/inversion\" target=\"_blank\">@inversion</a> ! When will the full update be made? Will it be on March 30th, as stated on the competition page, or on April 6th, as the organizer said in some discussion?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @inversion ! When will the full update be made? Will it be on March 30th, as stated on the competition page, or on April 6th, as the organizer said in some discussion?",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 3430278,
      "postDate": "2026-03-28T06:57:31.070Z",
      "content": "<p>hey guys! i wanna know one thing, my working submissions which returned some Tm scores are now showing errors.. all of my submission have error tag in them. </p>\n<p>WHAT IS HAPPENING? I AM SO CONFUSED</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "hey guys! i wanna know one thing, my working submissions which returned some Tm scores are now showing errors.. all of my submission have error tag in them. \n\nWHAT IS HAPPENING? I AM SO CONFUSED",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3430288,
          "postDate": "2026-03-28T07:24:17.363Z",
          "content": "<p>everyone is experiencing this. it is just rerun for private set. after it ends, all of the scores will appear</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "everyone is experiencing this. it is just rerun for private set. after it ends, all of the scores will appear",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 3430375,
          "postDate": "2026-03-28T11:12:49.993Z",
          "content": "<p>Agreed <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/baidalinadilzhan\" target=\"_blank\">@baidalinadilzhan</a> \n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kurshidbasheer\" target=\"_blank\">@kurshidbasheer</a> just wait for a few more days, I think Kaggle will score everything on the private data and release the leaderboard by end of next week. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Agreed @baidalinadilzhan \n@kurshidbasheer just wait for a few more days, I think Kaggle will score everything on the private data and release the leaderboard by end of next week. "
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 3430206,
      "postDate": "2026-03-28T04:03:07.713Z",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/inversion\" target=\"_blank\">@inversion</a>, thanks for your great work on this competition. However, there are, unexpectedly, a number of seemingly ungrounded disqualifications/removal from LB that have happened during the past day or two BEFORE you cleared the LB (<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/stanford-rna-3d-folding-2/discussion/685015)\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/stanford-rna-3d-folding-2/discussion/685015)</a>, myself included. I have already filed an appeal form through compliance and provide sufficient evidence to support my case. Since I did not create multiple account or share my code with anyone else, it is extremely puzzling for me to wrap my head around this removal.</p>\n<p>So, I respectfully ask whether you will be able to provide some perspectives on this issue for me and others in the similar situation. It just doesn't make sense to me for my solution that I developed alone to count as \"private sharing with others,\" thus triggering a compliance action. Thanks for your time and effort in advance!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @inversion, thanks for your great work on this competition. However, there are, unexpectedly, a number of seemingly ungrounded disqualifications/removal from LB that have happened during the past day or two BEFORE you cleared the LB (https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/stanford-rna-3d-folding-2/discussion/685015), myself included. I have already filed an appeal form through compliance and provide sufficient evidence to support my case. Since I did not create multiple account or share my code with anyone else, it is extremely puzzling for me to wrap my head around this removal.\n\nSo, I respectfully ask whether you will be able to provide some perspectives on this issue for me and others in the similar situation. It just doesn't make sense to me for my solution that I developed alone to count as \"private sharing with others,\" thus triggering a compliance action. Thanks for your time and effort in advance!",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3430241,
          "postDate": "2026-03-28T05:25:34.490Z",
          "content": "<p>What is the randomness and reproducibility of your program? I just guessed , the same program occasionally yields unusually high scores that cannot be reproduced?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "What is the randomness and reproducibility of your program? I just guessed , the same program occasionally yields unusually high scores that cannot be reproduced?",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3430242,
              "postDate": "2026-03-28T05:27:36.437Z",
              "content": "<p>I set seeds properly so my script is fully reproducible. Same output every time</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I set seeds properly so my script is fully reproducible. Same output every time"
            },
            {
              "id": 3430245,
              "postDate": "2026-03-28T05:31:53.120Z",
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            {
              "id": 3430249,
              "postDate": "2026-03-28T05:38:26.850Z",
              "content": "<p>Sorry I didn't get it. what do you mean by modifing the source code? in popular public notebooks, the protenix is not deterministic because the seed is not set properly in the function. I fixed that. (if this is your question)</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Sorry I didn't get it. what do you mean by modifing the source code? in popular public notebooks, the protenix is not deterministic because the seed is not set properly in the function. I fixed that. (if this is your question)"
            },
            {
              "id": 3430256,
              "postDate": "2026-03-28T05:48:28.550Z",
              "content": "<p>I think the last way you could do is to share your original notebook after the competition is completed; howerver,before that, you could continue to claim rights and appeal for a resolution</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I think the last way you could do is to share your original notebook after the competition is completed; howerver,before that, you could continue to claim rights and appeal for a resolution"
            },
            {
              "id": 3430257,
              "postDate": "2026-03-28T05:50:18.287Z",
              "content": "<p>Thanks, I'll wait for a response first. If not, I'll make my notebook public.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Thanks, I'll wait for a response first. If not, I'll make my notebook public."
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 3433433,
      "postDate": "2026-04-01T17:45:01.893Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "votes": 1,
      "isDeleted": true
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    {
      "id": 3430326,
      "postDate": "2026-03-28T09:17:52.640Z",
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 3430191,
      "author_name": "YaGana Sheriff-Hussaini",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2026-03-28T03:27:02.187000",
      "content": "<p>Interesting! <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/inversion\" target=\"_blank\">@inversion</a>, are you rescoring the public LB as well? Asking because I have never seen the public LB being cleared until the private LB reveal. Is this a new thing on Kaggle?</p>",
      "votes": 7,
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        {
          "id": 3430329,
          "author_name": "Qiwei",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2026-03-28T09:23:49.047000",
          "content": "<p>same feelings</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 3430188,
      "author_name": "Baidalin Adilzhan [dsmlkz]",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2026-03-28T03:20:59.337000",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/inversion\" target=\"_blank\">@inversion</a> ! When will the full update be made? Will it be on March 30th, as stated on the competition page, or on April 6th, as the organizer said in some discussion?</p>",
      "votes": 1,
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    {
      "id": 3430278,
      "author_name": "kurshid basheer",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2026-03-28T06:57:31.070000",
      "content": "<p>hey guys! i wanna know one thing, my working submissions which returned some Tm scores are now showing errors.. all of my submission have error tag in them. </p>\n<p>WHAT IS HAPPENING? I AM SO CONFUSED</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3430288,
          "author_name": "Baidalin Adilzhan [dsmlkz]",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2026-03-28T07:24:17.363000",
          "content": "<p>everyone is experiencing this. it is just rerun for private set. after it ends, all of the scores will appear</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 3430375,
          "author_name": "Ravi Ramakrishnan",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2026-03-28T11:12:49.993000",
          "content": "<p>Agreed <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/baidalinadilzhan\" target=\"_blank\">@baidalinadilzhan</a> \n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kurshidbasheer\" target=\"_blank\">@kurshidbasheer</a> just wait for a few more days, I think Kaggle will score everything on the private data and release the leaderboard by end of next week. </p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
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    {
      "id": 3430206,
      "author_name": "hongan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2026-03-28T04:03:07.713000",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/inversion\" target=\"_blank\">@inversion</a>, thanks for your great work on this competition. However, there are, unexpectedly, a number of seemingly ungrounded disqualifications/removal from LB that have happened during the past day or two BEFORE you cleared the LB (<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/stanford-rna-3d-folding-2/discussion/685015)\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/stanford-rna-3d-folding-2/discussion/685015)</a>, myself included. I have already filed an appeal form through compliance and provide sufficient evidence to support my case. Since I did not create multiple account or share my code with anyone else, it is extremely puzzling for me to wrap my head around this removal.</p>\n<p>So, I respectfully ask whether you will be able to provide some perspectives on this issue for me and others in the similar situation. It just doesn't make sense to me for my solution that I developed alone to count as \"private sharing with others,\" thus triggering a compliance action. Thanks for your time and effort in advance!</p>",
      "votes": 0,
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          "id": 3430241,
          "author_name": "Qiwei",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2026-03-28T05:25:34.490000",
          "content": "<p>What is the randomness and reproducibility of your program? I just guessed , the same program occasionally yields unusually high scores that cannot be reproduced?</p>",
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              "id": 3430242,
              "author_name": "hongan",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2026-03-28T05:27:36.437000",
              "content": "<p>I set seeds properly so my script is fully reproducible. Same output every time</p>",
              "votes": 0,
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              "id": 3430245,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2026-03-28T05:31:53.120000",
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              "id": 3430249,
              "author_name": "hongan",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2026-03-28T05:38:26.850000",
              "content": "<p>Sorry I didn't get it. what do you mean by modifing the source code? in popular public notebooks, the protenix is not deterministic because the seed is not set properly in the function. I fixed that. (if this is your question)</p>",
              "votes": 0,
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              "id": 3430256,
              "author_name": "Qiwei",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2026-03-28T05:48:28.550000",
              "content": "<p>I think the last way you could do is to share your original notebook after the competition is completed; howerver,before that, you could continue to claim rights and appeal for a resolution</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
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              "id": 3430257,
              "author_name": "hongan",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2026-03-28T05:50:18.287000",
              "content": "<p>Thanks, I'll wait for a response first. If not, I'll make my notebook public.</p>",
              "votes": 0,
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      "post_date": "2026-04-01T17:45:01.893000",
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      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2026-03-28T09:17:52.640000",
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    "3430188": "Hi @inversion ! When will the full update be made? Will it be on March 30th, as stated on the competition page, or on April 6th, as the organizer said in some discussion?",
    "3430278": "hey guys! i wanna know one thing, my working submissions which returned some Tm scores are now showing errors.. all of my submission have error tag in them. \n\nWHAT IS HAPPENING? I AM SO CONFUSED",
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