{
  "id": 109465,
  "title": "confusion about the model upload",
  "url": "/competitions/rsna-intracranial-hemorrhage-detection/discussion/109465",
  "author_name": "Chao Huang",
  "post_date": "2019-09-19T11:57:00.269000",
  "votes": 2,
  "comment_count": 7,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>The \"Submission Limits\" clause of the competition rules says \"You may submit a maximum of 5 entries per day. You may select up to 2 final submissions for judging.\"</p>\n\n<p>So my understanding is that the competitors can upload as many models as they want (at most 5 models per day, of course) before the end of stage 1, and then in stage 2, they can select 2 models from the uploaded ones as the final submission.</p>\n\n<p>However, in the \"<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/two-stage-frequently-asked-questions\">Two-Stage Frequently Asked Questions</a>\", it also mentions that \"You may upload as many model files as you wish. Kaggle only keeps the latest upload. Make sure your last upload is the right one!\". This seems a contradiction of the rule that 2 models can be selected as the final submission; how can you submit 2 models if only 1 is kept?</p>\n\n<p>So could someone clarify the rules of the model upload?</p>\n\n<p>Thanks.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 630916,
      "postDate": "2019-09-21T01:59:48.737Z",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"/juliaelliott\">@juliaelliott</a> </p>\n\n<p>Could you be more specific about what you expect to be uploaded? </p>\n\n<p>Is is the saved weights of the model? Is is the code used to train the model? How would this be verified?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @juliaelliott \n\nCould you be more specific about what you expect to be uploaded? \n\nIs is the saved weights of the model? Is is the code used to train the model? How would this be verified?",
      "votes": 3
    },
    {
      "id": 629876,
      "postDate": "2019-09-19T11:57:00.270Z",
      "content": "<p>The \"Submission Limits\" clause of the competition rules says \"You may submit a maximum of 5 entries per day. You may select up to 2 final submissions for judging.\"</p>\n\n<p>So my understanding is that the competitors can upload as many models as they want (at most 5 models per day, of course) before the end of stage 1, and then in stage 2, they can select 2 models from the uploaded ones as the final submission.</p>\n\n<p>However, in the \"<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/two-stage-frequently-asked-questions\">Two-Stage Frequently Asked Questions</a>\", it also mentions that \"You may upload as many model files as you wish. Kaggle only keeps the latest upload. Make sure your last upload is the right one!\". This seems a contradiction of the rule that 2 models can be selected as the final submission; how can you submit 2 models if only 1 is kept?</p>\n\n<p>So could someone clarify the rules of the model upload?</p>\n\n<p>Thanks.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The \"Submission Limits\" clause of the competition rules says \"You may submit a maximum of 5 entries per day. You may select up to 2 final submissions for judging.\"\n\nSo my understanding is that the competitors can upload as many models as they want (at most 5 models per day, of course) before the end of stage 1, and then in stage 2, they can select 2 models from the uploaded ones as the final submission.\n\nHowever, in the \"[Two-Stage Frequently Asked Questions](https://www.kaggle.com/two-stage-frequently-asked-questions)\", it also mentions that \"You may upload as many model files as you wish. Kaggle only keeps the latest upload. Make sure your last upload is the right one!\". This seems a contradiction of the rule that 2 models can be selected as the final submission; how can you submit 2 models if only 1 is kept?\n\nSo could someone clarify the rules of the model upload?\n\nThanks.",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 629902,
      "postDate": "2019-09-19T12:53:37.823Z",
      "content": "<p>Your understanding is largely correct. </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Up to 5 daily submissions are permitted per team. </li>\n<li>Before the end of stage 1, you will be required to upload the 2 models that you are going to use in stage 2. These can be zipped together and uploaded, since our uploaded only accepts a single file (which is what the message you quoted is referring to), so if you upload a 2nd file, it will overwrite the prior upload. This deadline is firmly the end of stage 1 (uploads will close strictly on the specified date and time).</li>\n<li>In stage 2, you will only have 1 week to make your submissions using the 2 models you’ve locked-in on the stage 2 dataset.</li>\n<li>Before the deadline of stage 2, you also must select your 2 final submissions which will be scored on the private leaderboard. This deadline is also firmly the end of stage 2.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>Hope that helps!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Your understanding is largely correct. \n\n- Up to 5 daily submissions are permitted per team. \n- Before the end of stage 1, you will be required to upload the 2 models that you are going to use in stage 2. These can be zipped together and uploaded, since our uploaded only accepts a single file (which is what the message you quoted is referring to), so if you upload a 2nd file, it will overwrite the prior upload. This deadline is firmly the end of stage 1 (uploads will close strictly on the specified date and time).\n- In stage 2, you will only have 1 week to make your submissions using the 2 models you’ve locked-in on the stage 2 dataset.\n- Before the deadline of stage 2, you also must select your 2 final submissions which will be scored on the private leaderboard. This deadline is also firmly the end of stage 2.\n\nHope that helps!\n\n",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 633087,
          "postDate": "2019-09-24T12:27:43.453Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/juliaelliott\">@juliaelliott</a> sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but because you say <code>you will be required to upload the 2 models that you are going to use in stage 2.</code> , Does this mean that if we want to use ensembling, then it cannot be more than a 2 model ensemble? or can we upload more than 2 models in the single zip file?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@juliaelliott sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but because you say `you will be required to upload the 2 models that you are going to use in stage 2.` , Does this mean that if we want to use ensembling, then it cannot be more than a 2 model ensemble? or can we upload more than 2 models in the single zip file?"
        },
        {
          "id": 643401,
          "postDate": "2019-10-07T13:51:58.493Z",
          "content": "<p>could you explain on the meaning of \"so if you upload a 2nd file, it will overwrite the prior upload\"<a href=\"/juliaelliott\">@juliaelliott</a></p>\n\n<p>which file will be overwrited?the model ,the submission.csv ?\nor the others?\nI don't think it is clear</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "could you explain on the meaning of \"so if you upload a 2nd file, it will overwrite the prior upload\"@juliaelliott\n\nwhich file will be overwrited?the model ,the submission.csv ?\nor the others?\nI don't think it is clear"
        },
        {
          "id": 643492,
          "postDate": "2019-10-07T14:49:57.613Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/decentmakeover\">@decentmakeover</a> Each of the 2 models can be an ensemble.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@decentmakeover Each of the 2 models can be an ensemble."
        },
        {
          "id": 643495,
          "postDate": "2019-10-07T14:51:37.503Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/pupil3\">@pupil3</a> this refers to whatever you upload in “Your Model.” If you subsequently upload another file there, it will overwrite whatever you uploaded previously.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@pupil3 this refers to whatever you upload in “Your Model.” If you subsequently upload another file there, it will overwrite whatever you uploaded previously."
        },
        {
          "id": 643499,
          "postDate": "2019-10-07T14:53:48.983Z",
          "content": "<p>Much Thanks ~\nSummary:\nin Submission: upload your submission.csv\nin Team-&gt;model:upload your .py or .ipynb and model weights file in a zip,the kaggle server only save the newest .zip file.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Much Thanks ~\nSummary:\nin Submission: upload your submission.csv\nin Team-&gt;model:upload your .py or .ipynb and model weights file in a zip,the kaggle server only save the newest .zip file.\n",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 630916,
      "author_name": "Karl Hornlund",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-09-21T01:59:48.737000",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"/juliaelliott\">@juliaelliott</a> </p>\n\n<p>Could you be more specific about what you expect to be uploaded? </p>\n\n<p>Is is the saved weights of the model? Is is the code used to train the model? How would this be verified?</p>",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 629902,
      "author_name": "Julia Elliott",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-09-19T12:53:37.823000",
      "content": "<p>Your understanding is largely correct. </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Up to 5 daily submissions are permitted per team. </li>\n<li>Before the end of stage 1, you will be required to upload the 2 models that you are going to use in stage 2. These can be zipped together and uploaded, since our uploaded only accepts a single file (which is what the message you quoted is referring to), so if you upload a 2nd file, it will overwrite the prior upload. This deadline is firmly the end of stage 1 (uploads will close strictly on the specified date and time).</li>\n<li>In stage 2, you will only have 1 week to make your submissions using the 2 models you’ve locked-in on the stage 2 dataset.</li>\n<li>Before the deadline of stage 2, you also must select your 2 final submissions which will be scored on the private leaderboard. This deadline is also firmly the end of stage 2.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>Hope that helps!</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 633087,
          "author_name": "DecentMakeover",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-09-24T12:27:43.453000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/juliaelliott\">@juliaelliott</a> sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but because you say <code>you will be required to upload the 2 models that you are going to use in stage 2.</code> , Does this mean that if we want to use ensembling, then it cannot be more than a 2 model ensemble? or can we upload more than 2 models in the single zip file?</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 643401,
          "author_name": "pupil3",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-10-07T13:51:58.493000",
          "content": "<p>could you explain on the meaning of \"so if you upload a 2nd file, it will overwrite the prior upload\"<a href=\"/juliaelliott\">@juliaelliott</a></p>\n\n<p>which file will be overwrited?the model ,the submission.csv ?\nor the others?\nI don't think it is clear</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 643492,
          "author_name": "Julia Elliott",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-10-07T14:49:57.613000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/decentmakeover\">@decentmakeover</a> Each of the 2 models can be an ensemble.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 643495,
          "author_name": "Julia Elliott",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-10-07T14:51:37.503000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/pupil3\">@pupil3</a> this refers to whatever you upload in “Your Model.” If you subsequently upload another file there, it will overwrite whatever you uploaded previously.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 643499,
          "author_name": "pupil3",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-10-07T14:53:48.983000",
          "content": "<p>Much Thanks ~\nSummary:\nin Submission: upload your submission.csv\nin Team-&gt;model:upload your .py or .ipynb and model weights file in a zip,the kaggle server only save the newest .zip file.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
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    "630916": "Hi @juliaelliott \n\nCould you be more specific about what you expect to be uploaded? \n\nIs is the saved weights of the model? Is is the code used to train the model? How would this be verified?",
    "629876": "The \"Submission Limits\" clause of the competition rules says \"You may submit a maximum of 5 entries per day. You may select up to 2 final submissions for judging.\"\n\nSo my understanding is that the competitors can upload as many models as they want (at most 5 models per day, of course) before the end of stage 1, and then in stage 2, they can select 2 models from the uploaded ones as the final submission.\n\nHowever, in the \"[Two-Stage Frequently Asked Questions](https://www.kaggle.com/two-stage-frequently-asked-questions)\", it also mentions that \"You may upload as many model files as you wish. Kaggle only keeps the latest upload. Make sure your last upload is the right one!\". This seems a contradiction of the rule that 2 models can be selected as the final submission; how can you submit 2 models if only 1 is kept?\n\nSo could someone clarify the rules of the model upload?\n\nThanks.",
    "629902": "Your understanding is largely correct. \n\n- Up to 5 daily submissions are permitted per team. \n- Before the end of stage 1, you will be required to upload the 2 models that you are going to use in stage 2. These can be zipped together and uploaded, since our uploaded only accepts a single file (which is what the message you quoted is referring to), so if you upload a 2nd file, it will overwrite the prior upload. This deadline is firmly the end of stage 1 (uploads will close strictly on the specified date and time).\n- In stage 2, you will only have 1 week to make your submissions using the 2 models you’ve locked-in on the stage 2 dataset.\n- Before the deadline of stage 2, you also must select your 2 final submissions which will be scored on the private leaderboard. This deadline is also firmly the end of stage 2.\n\nHope that helps!\n\n"
  }
}