{ "id": 427420, "title": "calling out sus accounts", "url": "/competitions/google-research-identify-contrails-reduce-global-warming/discussion/427420", "author_name": "hide on bread", "post_date": "2023-07-27T19:10:35.161000", "votes": 24, "comment_count": 17, "views": 0, "content": "

I hate to call out sus people on leaderboard but this seems a little too obvious… @inversion
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I hate to call out sus people on leaderboard but this seems a little too obvious… @inversion
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", "rawMarkdown": "I hate to call out sus people on leaderboard but this seems a little too obvious... @inversion \n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F2456737%2Fa55283589cb96c3b53b84251345a03b3%2Fpic1.png?generation=1690484951568943&alt=media)\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F2456737%2Fabf858f371342b0cc1b8d4cad1180ffd%2Fpic2.png?generation=1690484971664940&alt=media)\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F2456737%2F9125cab58e42d77528a99803f0213454%2Fpic3.png?generation=1690484986591526&alt=media)", "votes": 23 }, { "id": 2362884, "postDate": "2023-07-28T11:04:03.700Z", "content": "

after your post this guy decided to teamup all his accounts, but I hope he still will be dropped

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You think I have three accounts, I hope you are telling the truth

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3 accounts participate in a team in one competition and have similar high scores in another. Then they team up. How many people would tell you that this is not suspicious?

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I'm so sorry to disappoint you.

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Adding deleted comments by @yienngxiong .

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That's suspicious but we don't have any evidence at all. For all we know he might be saying the truth. What's even the point of having 3 accounts ? wouldn't 2 be enough especially seeing his combined number of submissions and the fact that he has been participating in the comp since the beginning…

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edit: and before everyone starts downvoting me, have a little empathy and imagine how it would feel if you were falsely accused. I better be wrong and he be guilty than be wrong and he be innocent.

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I think it's definitely not about multiple accounts. It's more about private sharing, even if they are colleagues, private sharing until the finals days and merging at the very end is against the rules. I am not saying it's necessarily worth a ban, but it is a good thing that they merged and that everyone knows they have been working all together. What would have happened if no one said anything ? private sharing until the end?

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You make a good point, I was mainly adressing the people rushing to say he uses 3 accounts. I have also been told that it is a common practice to do so and to later sell the accounts to students who need to show to recruiters they got medals. @optimo

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yeah, it is rather obvious.. @derekcai

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Adding another deleted comment by @yienngxiong
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Thanks for your mature response especially at the end @yienngxiong .
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  1. I can still call out suspicious activities on leaderboard even if I am not seriously competing in the competition.
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  2. I never accused you of anything really. All I did was posting screenshots of suspicious leaderboard activities and you have all the rights to defend yourself in the post. But all you did was deleting comments after comments…
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  3. Kaggle can never catch everyone who does private sharing. Kaggle is not omnipotent. Your screenshot doesn't really prove that you guys didn't private share during the competition. It just shows how you guys started.
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  4. I still think it's very unlikely that your colleagues and you just happen to rank 14, 15, 16 at some point with very similar scores and your colleagues all had very few submissions. And after this post, you guys quickly teamed up without offering any explanation.
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  5. You also claimed in the screenshot that this competition is your colleagues' first Kaggle competition which is not true. You and your colleagues have team up in HuBMAP - Hacking the Human Vasculature before teaming up in this competition, which makes it more suspicious.
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You never really defend your case and have been super aggressive for no reason. We can ask Kaggle staff @inversion and other people to look into this to prove your innocence if you want. I'll issue a whole-hearted apology afterwards if they cleared your case.

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I look forward to your response @yienngxiong

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any form of code review is welcomed.

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after your post this guy decided to teamup all his accounts, but I hope he still will be dropped

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You think I have three accounts, I hope you are telling the truth

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3 accounts participate in a team in one competition and have similar high scores in another. Then they team up. How many people would tell you that this is not suspicious?

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I'm so sorry to disappoint you.

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Adding deleted comments by @yienngxiong .

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That's suspicious but we don't have any evidence at all. For all we know he might be saying the truth. What's even the point of having 3 accounts ? wouldn't 2 be enough especially seeing his combined number of submissions and the fact that he has been participating in the comp since the beginning…

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edit: and before everyone starts downvoting me, have a little empathy and imagine how it would feel if you were falsely accused. I better be wrong and he be guilty than be wrong and he be innocent.

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I think it's definitely not about multiple accounts. It's more about private sharing, even if they are colleagues, private sharing until the finals days and merging at the very end is against the rules. I am not saying it's necessarily worth a ban, but it is a good thing that they merged and that everyone knows they have been working all together. What would have happened if no one said anything ? private sharing until the end?

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You make a good point, I was mainly adressing the people rushing to say he uses 3 accounts. I have also been told that it is a common practice to do so and to later sell the accounts to students who need to show to recruiters they got medals. @optimo

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yeah, it is rather obvious.. @derekcai

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Adding another deleted comment by @yienngxiong
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Thanks for your mature response especially at the end @yienngxiong .
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  1. I can still call out suspicious activities on leaderboard even if I am not seriously competing in the competition.
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  2. I never accused you of anything really. All I did was posting screenshots of suspicious leaderboard activities and you have all the rights to defend yourself in the post. But all you did was deleting comments after comments…
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  3. Kaggle can never catch everyone who does private sharing. Kaggle is not omnipotent. Your screenshot doesn't really prove that you guys didn't private share during the competition. It just shows how you guys started.
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  4. I still think it's very unlikely that your colleagues and you just happen to rank 14, 15, 16 at some point with very similar scores and your colleagues all had very few submissions. And after this post, you guys quickly teamed up without offering any explanation.
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  5. You also claimed in the screenshot that this competition is your colleagues' first Kaggle competition which is not true. You and your colleagues have team up in HuBMAP - Hacking the Human Vasculature before teaming up in this competition, which makes it more suspicious.
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You never really defend your case and have been super aggressive for no reason. We can ask Kaggle staff @inversion and other people to look into this to prove your innocence if you want. I'll issue a whole-hearted apology afterwards if they cleared your case.

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I look forward to your response @yienngxiong

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any form of code review is welcomed.

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